Yeah, happy to jump in.

Yeah.

Um, and for us, we, we'll do our best to walk through this.

It's not something we have spoken much of for the last decade.

Um, but we'll just try keep it to the facts, um, as, as best we can.

Uh, so in 2015, N- November 2015, my role at the time was on media and live stream, uh, at Glory City Church.

At the time, they held a conference, a prophetic conference, uh, of which Gary was a speaker.

We were in our t- mid-20s, and we just found it very, very difficult to be, um, so persecuted for what we thought was doing the right thing.