What, how, how did that come to be? Like, what is the relationship that you and your father have? How did that handoff happen?

Yeah, look, it wasn't probably planned.

I mean, I think our father in heaven planned it all along.

But sort of the back story is that I'm the oldest of five and we grew up playing music, travelling around Australia and around the world playing music together as a family.

Kind of like the Von Trapps or the Jackson 5.

We were never that good.

We definitely couldn't dance as well as the Jackson 5.

What would you say to people who are finding the pressures a lot to encourage them to keep moving forward?