Is that, is that how you think of the podcast?

I, I try to think in the age of sort of AI and foundation models, what unique data can I get that a foundation model will never be able to get to? So for example, Google and OpenAI are enemies.

They have competing foundation models, Gemini versus ChatGPT.

Google does not let ChatGPT or OpenAI or Anthropic scan Google... like, YouTube transcripts.

They've blocked it.

So transcripts and voice data are proprietary data sets that models will never be trained on.

Why is that important? Well, because if the models aren't trained on data points, like what Cal AI's revenue is, they have to backlink to my page, so I get the impression and I still get the click.

Dude, I would love that.

You have to have a good SEO strategy historically, but also moving forward to ensure that you're ranking within that.

Yeah, I would say if you're listening to this going, how to make sure I rank, and you want the closest thing to a cheat code that I can come up with, the three things are make sure your core website domain rating, use Ahrefs or SEMrush to look it up, is above a 50.

Number two is go into Ahrefs or SEMrush and look at your most popular blog posts or your most trafficked pages on your website today.

and go in and update the title one tags, it might say like for SaaS stock, it might say your title one tag for SaaS stock might say, you know, the largest or most successful software conference for SaaS founders.

Well, the question everyone needs to ask themselves or is your title one tags, is that also the question that your potential future ticket buyers are going to be asking chat GPT? you want to rewrite your title tags to match what your potential future customers are trying to close are searching for in chat GPT, the same way you used to optimize your title one and metadata descriptions for what you wanted to show in Google search.

So for someone like FounderPath, who we sell non-dilutive capital, we're not going to put our title one tags and say things like, the premier capital source for software founders, best in the world.

What we're going to say is, that, you know, top three non-dilutive capital sources for software companies, or I'm trying to think about what are my potential future customers searching in the agents, and then I'm making my landing pages match that.

Are you seeing similar things or how SaaS companies are using that from a, let's say, from an outbound perspective?