Should philosophy be used when the church constructs doctrine, when it makes dogmatic claims? And then if it should be used, what are the limits on that?

Yeah, well, I definitely do think it has an important role to play.

I think that good theologians are always good philosophers.

I don't think you can really be a good theologian without being a good philosopher.

And I think when we look at, like, modern theology, oftentimes the problem, or one of the fundamental problems, is that the theologian is not a good philosopher.

The theologian is not reading good philosophers, is not deriving what they think from... from the good sources that I think are out there.

So I think that causes a lot of problems like Karl Barth, for example.

We've only got about seven minutes here, so if you could possibly do that... um in a brief period of time well what is the nominalism realism debate and then why why do you think this matters again you know why why are you promoting a realist perspective