Mm-hmm.

um had a band in like the late 80s we were a metal band we did a pile of shows we went through three different band name changes but it was always the same band um throughout high school and then the early 90s like 1990 i think it was i went to uh college for music at Mohawk.

I took the jazz program for three years.

And after graduating there, I was thinking like, what was I going to do? I definitely still wanted to be a performing musician, but I really wanted to get into film scoring.

I thought that's where I, you know, cause I've always loved film ever since star Wars in 1977.

I was, you know, that kind of dreamer that music and film I really enjoyed.

And then, uh, So there wasn't, there was no film scene in Hamilton.

feature, yeah.