So what was the first time? And was it a big surprise?

Well, it's funny because when I was a little child, I was a Catholic child.

I'm 69 years old.

I was growing up in the early 60s.

I made First Communion in 1962, I think.

And my aunts were both Dominican nuns, first-rate teachers.

One of them told me, you have a superpower while you're a child because your prayers go straight to God's heart.

So there's got to be something over there, you know, on the other side.

Right.

But my own dreaming is, you know, much more mundane.

But, um, but we receive the dream, write it down, go into protected prayer, ask for the guardian to, to give us clarity, because dreams are kind of indistinct by their nature.

We often want some detail in order to help the person better.

Then we ask that person if they're ready to speak.

They tell us what they need to say, and usually they're on their way.

We, when we, we have a little bit of conversation and it feels like, uh, we don't need to talk any longer, it's time for you to move along, and so my guides, my, my p- my partners h- are trained to, to listen for the moment when it sounds like they should say, "Well, Roberta, it sounds like it, you're ready to move.

That is pure beautiful love.

Is it unforgettable?

That's who you are.

Yeah, yeah, hell yeah.

In fact, if you remember the Grammys years ago, her dad, Natalie Cole's dad, Nat King Cole, made that song famous in the late 50s, early 60s.

And then she re-recorded it, I think, in the late 80s or 90s, and it was hit all over again.

Grammys, they figured out how to do a hologram of him singing it with his daughter as a duet.

It was like he was back from the grave and they were doing duet.

Plenty.