Mm

... 'cause they have so much energy, right? And, like, Sorba last night, even though he, he kept trying to run the full back, he just didn't have that extra bit in the tank that he had against Norway, 'cause he was, he was brilliant I thought.

Um, and that was like a sign to me, a, the telltale sign that, you know, the lads are running on, not empty, but nigh on empty.

Yeah, so it, it was always gonna be difficult.

And I know people had... we had targeted sort of, like, the Denmarks or the games as the, the four points, if we, like, if we could, you know, the best part of it, or three points, win at home, lose away.

But, um, yeah, I thought, I thought it was a fatigued performance last night all around.

I just thought, "You know what? I don't think we were quite at it," and there's reasons why.

... wouldn't they? Yeah

It's quite nice to get a bit of luck going, aren't

we? Yeah, listen, I look at the...

Our goal came out of nothing, really and truly.

I think we were caught in between...

The system we've been playing, we tried a new system against Denmark and we played that system again tonight with a mid-block without really pressing.

And it caused us a problem for a long time.

And Liam Cullen just charges the ball.

I was just trying

... um, approach to the game and-

I know, yeah.

So if we have a race and I'm faster than you, nine times out of 10, like, you're gonna, I'm gonna beat you, right? The one chance, one in a million, you might beat me if I'm not up to it or I haven't trained well or I'm back off injury.

But, you know, it's difficult to beat people who are better than you.

It's as simple as that.

And I think, you know, we are a, we are a, we're in Group A, but we're like a, a team that's gonna fluctuate.

You know? We're kinda like a team that's gonna fluctuate between Premier League and Championship.

So is, is it the players' fault then?

No, I, I'll be one of the men as well.

The lady and the guys and gals, if you like.

I think what was spoken about earlier was the sort of the first 10 minutes was a lot of attack, right? A lot of promise and what have you.

But- Then we just sort of faded off, and yes, they got the goal in 20 minutes, but then it was, um, we were just defending or pressing, and I'm like, at some point in that heat, it...

I, I don't understand, and this is my personal opinion, I don't think you can just play a press game.

I think you have to have, like, two sides at least.

You have to be able to counterattack.

But we started the game well

So do you want to talk us through a little bit about those early years?

Well, I was, I'd done my, I'd done like work experience, you know, in fifth form before your exams, you do like three months work experience.

I'd done that at Newport County, my local club.

Because my family are Cardiff born, and I'm Cardiff born.

But I was brought up from about the age of three, I think, in Newport.

So I'm in between the two.

So when we was a ball boy and stuff like that, we ball boy for Newport County.

when I left Bolton and went to Blackburn,