His entire life has been just working with others and his time on council i think everyone can praise him for his willingness and openness on that from all sides of the aisle which hopefully sets him up better if he does win than kennedy stewart kind of face because i think that's going to be the biggest challenge for these parties now is promising to do better than the kennedy stewart council where you have lots of different parties not able to agree and not necessarily accomplishing much

Yeah, absolutely.

I do agree that I see how Fry's experience and his sort of, he's a bit of a technocrat, right? He's very dialed into sort of procedure and governance.

And it was interesting because even we asked him, media asked him after Azarov dropped out at that same press conference, like, what is the critical, essential ballot question? What is the most important question in this election campaign? And for him, he said good governance.

Yeah.

Which is very interesting because I totally can respect why he's coming to that conclusion.

You know, given all he's been through in the last four years, you know, being amended and shut out by the ABC majority.

I know you wanted to dig into this, so I'll let you lead.