Mm

... what was their, what was the next 30 years after they invented that thing? Like, what other inventions did they try to invent? Like, what was it like to live with the knowledge that like, "Oh, one time I walked on the moon and, and now I'm just a guy"? I'm very interested in that, and part of it is like, because that's the kind of thing that, like, I try to figure out for myself all the time.

Like, what is it like to be, you know, an artist? What is it like to have an audience? What will happen if the audience goes away? Like, who will I be then, or whatever.

Like, those are just...

I, I'm sure I write those stories because I'm interested in it.

Life is always more complex than we think of, like, than the stories tell us.

Like, there is life beyond the story, but I wanna hint that there's even life beyond the story that I'm telling you, that there's a thing in my audiobook that only exists in the audiobook that is about Scott Carpenter, the astronaut, you know, who's famous for, for spending about six hours in space one day in 1962.

Mm-hmm.

Here is Nate DiMaio with a story called The Self-Believer or Hasting by Musket and Sexton.

This is the Memory Palace.

I'm Nate DiMaio.

Somewhere in the unknown West, at some unknown point in the summer of 1842, somewhere in the Plains, Nebraska, Kansas, possibly eastern Wyoming, a wagon train was in revolt.

Its members had had it with Elijah White, the man who had organized the Westward Party back in Missouri, a doctor and federal contractor tasked with bringing people safely to the Oregon coast.

White wasn't the guide.

There was a famous trapper that did that, a man named Fitzpatrick, seasoned and sunburned.

And so can you articulate that? Can you even allow yourself to say, this is my little contribution to the story of this little country of ours?

Mm

... their, what was the next 30 years after they invented that thing? Like, what other inventions did they try to invent? Like, what was it like to live with the knowledge that like, "Oh, one time I walked on the moon and, and now I'm just a guy"? I'm very interested in that.

And part of it is, like, because that's a kind of thing that, like, I try to figure out for myself all the time.

Like, what is it like to be, you know, an artist? What is it like to have an audience? What will happen if the audience goes away? Like, who will I be then, or whatever? Like, those are just...

I, I'm sure I write those stories because I'm interested in it.

Life is always more complex than we think of, like, than the stories tell us.

Like, there is life beyond the story, but I wanna hint that there's even life beyond the story that I'm telling you, that there's a thing in my audiobook that only exists in the audiobook that is about Scott Carpenter, the astronaut, you know, who's famous for, for spending about six hours in space one day in 1962.

Mm-hmm.