What are some of those that you've seen throughout your career?

Sure.

You know, I, I think two of the biggest misconceptions that I think of, you, you've already spoken to them a bit right now, all right, was the first one being that things have to be really bad before I decide to go to therapy or before I decide to bring my child to therapy.

People need to have a problem that's serious enough for therapy, and that's really not the case.

Oftentimes when people come to see me in therapy, usually it's for three different reasons.

First reason being, yes, perhaps there was a pretty significant trauma or event that occurred, perhaps like the death of a parent or a family member, that then activated them to say, "Yes, we do need help." Other times it might have been this sort of gradual building of problems that then culminated in one significant problem, and said, "Okay, now it's time to come to therapy." And oftentimes then children will associate coming to therapy as if a punishment of some sort or that they're in trouble in some way.

Then we've got the third camp of folks where perhaps there was no significant trauma.

But in your mind, how can we reduce the stigma around therapy for kids? Like, how can parents help their kids and teens feel like this is not punishment, you're not crazy, and, and help them to see the, the value here?