[percussion sting]

[laughs] Oh, God, even Beanie was like...

So evidence-based medicine, for the listeners who may not be terribly familiar with this, but it's essentially what you're trying to do is you're trying to get, like, high quality, mostly, like, prospective studies, blinded, randomized, controlled, blah, blah, blah, and they've been peer reviewed by a series of other experts, and they've gone through the rigmarole of publication.

And you're supposed to use the evidence that we find in that literature to drive clinical decision-making.

One of the limitations that we frequently encounter in veterinary medicine is that our study populations or our study groups within these papers are insanely low, right? Like, there are more than a handful of papers out there that are published with four to six, uh, you know, cats in a group.

And, you know, it's the one paper on this topic, and we're all supposed to, you know, make these big extrapolations, uh, thereof.

I sort of have this Barthel theory of veterinary literature in general, which is there's six different levels of what's considered, um, to be worthwhile in terms of knowledge, right? And evidence-based is meant to be the top of the pyramid, and at the bottom of the pyramid is basically experiential, right? So it's what you do day to day.

Yeah, that is it, right? Like any other study that proves the contrary-