Like, I mean, maybe don't go 10 years, but what are you hoping to, where are you hoping to go as an artist?

Well, I haven't done an album yet.

So that's the next thing is the album.

And I think that's really exciting.

I think that I finally have reached a point where I'm very sure of who I am as a person.

And that should hopefully translate into the next era of musical identity.

Yet I haven't quite started it, so I don't know.

I will keep listening to Natalie Shea from here on in and I would love to have you back when your next release comes out.

And what, now that you've been in the game for like four years, what would you tell your, like, what would you want to know as a younger artist that you have learned now through...

Yeah, I mean, I started releasing actually when I was 15.

So I've been doing this for ages before streaming, before Spotify.

So I've actually liked, I've seen the change in the way music is prompted and released.

And like when I first started, it was all about like the iTunes chart and like, that was all it was about.

And like PR and blogs and iTunes chart, whereas now it's very much like TikTok and playlist and like all these things that like were never a thing before.

So I've definitely experienced both.

absolutely absolutely and with this EP it is like we talked about it's so vulnerable and What did you learn most about yourself making this project? And then also, what do you hope that people learn about themselves by listening to your EP? Yes.