It was, right, I need to sort of learn before I get there, if that makes sense.

Yeah, definitely.

So I suppose just growing up rurally, you've always got friends here on farms and you sort of grew up and you might be right in the back of the trailer, sort of on corn carton or whatever.

obviously not on public highways but you know just growing up and whether it's on just a stack of straw bells or something you're always just spending time there and as I grew older lots of my friends came to Hartford College and I went to sixth form I did sixth form but after I finished sixth form I was just like That's actually really cool.

So I sort of got involved with Young Farmers a bit, and then obviously the discos, which are brilliant.

And then I thought, well, yeah, why don't I get a job? I haven't got much else, so let's get a job in agriculture.

So I did.

Just before we finish as well, is that something that you've covered at all or you've ever experienced in terms of farm