Was it a wink or was it race that played a part in the downfall of this young woman? Good morning.

I think...

Good morning.

Thank you for having me on.

Um, I think in this case we have to take Mahala's word for it.

It was that wink, um, but that's not to excuse that we are allowed to ask the question because let's remember, Nick, that this show has been plagued with this unconscious bias, and it's not just unconscious bias towards race.

We can talk about ageism, we can talk about sexism, misogyny, the lot because you're looking at a program, and there is actually evidence from Benji Cusi.

So doesn't that defeat in part your argument, Narinder?

single person can absorb every price increase?

I'm...

Most, the majority, the predominant...

The majority of private school parents can afford it.

I have seen it all around me, my social circle...

Parents, I know, they send all their kids to private school.

They are not, they're not suffering.

Tell me about this.

Do you love the Royals? And if so, how much? Good morning.

Good morning, Nick.

Thank you for having me on.

I used to love the royals, but I think their behaviour towards Prince Harry and to Meghan Sussex has been appalling.

And I've lost a lot of love for the royal family.

If the king, the unifier of the country, cannot unify his own family and can't even see his grandchildren when visited in America, I don't have a lot of respect for the king right now.

Do you think in any way Prince Harry is in some part the author of his current family misfortunes?

No, not at all.

But we want people to work

...

they look, but, but had they had to employ anyone, even on minimum wage, we still wouldn't have made money because we're being screwed by the supermarkets.

Everyone's getting screwed somewhere.

My whole, our whole shop life in Newcastle, '80s, '90s, noughties, and we only just sold it a year ago, we would never have made a profit if we had to pay other people.

We had to work for free, all of us from the age of, like, eight years old, putting out newspapers, but they can employ someone if they had to employ.

And that was back in the day when businesses were making money.

Yeah.

Before we get into everything though I always like to go back to the start of my guests Okay Get more of an understanding about you Where you grew up and how it all began

Yeah.

So, yeah, people love this because, you know, always on Exit trying to figure out what I am.

I was born in Birmingham.

I'm a Brummie, Geordie, Punjabi, Indian, British, English.

I'm all of it.

I can be all of it.

When are you at your lowest with it all? It must affect you no matter what because we all say we're fit skinned I think I'm a strong character but like you spoke earlier when we were talking about family courts and that it did affect me and you do lose yourself but when do you when are you at your lowest with it all? When does it affect you the most? Have you ever been at a low point?