And he achieved it, felt fantastic for a day or two, then emptiness, okay, what's next? So how come I don't feel like I'm okay? How come this hasn't filled that hole? You know, so yeah, I'm interested in that.

Yeah, what you're describing is something that the literature has addressed.

And we find that success is often met with great glee initially, but it's fleeting.

And it can serve as a motivation for finding a new project.

Now with athletes, it may be more limited within the athletic scope, but outside athletics, there may be many, many things they can do.

I know in my own case, when I finish something, there's a feeling of elation, but then there's this emptiness and I have to go on to another project.

And I suspect it's that way with many people, especially if they work so hard.

While we're on that note, can you, you know, you touched on it before, can you give me a bit more background on just your story and how you actually decided to go down this path? Obviously, like you said, you, you know, you're a twin, but what, what led you down this path? Uh, yeah.

Ladies and gentlemen, Nancy Siegel.

Good evening.

So when I told a colleague that I was participating in this debate, he said to me, you can't win, because parents believe that what they do makes an incredible difference in the lives of their children.

But as my colleague Dr. Plowman pointed out, DNA is the key driving force behind how children turn out to be as individuals.

Children are not blank slates.

They come into the world with genetic predispositions that parents respond to and do not create.

People know this concept, but it's often lost when it comes to parenting.

And now to make her closing statement in support of the resolution, Professor of Psychology and Director of the Twin Study Center at California State University Fullerton, Nancy Siegel.

Years later, they were studied as adults in a study you, Nancy, know well because you took part in the study.

study.I can tell you a lot about the Jim twins.

The Jim twins were in the state of Ohio.

They were born about, about 40, 50 miles apart in different cities.

That's where they grew up.

And then when they met at the age of 39, they discovered a whole long list of similarities in addition to their first names.

They both had mixed headache syndromes when they were teenagers.

Uh, w- what difficulties have the twins faced in accessing them, and why does the public have to wait so long to see them?

Yeah.

But now we're able to treat this.

So, at any rate, people began to see differences between different breeds of dogs, different mouse strains.

You could train an animal, for example, to avoid noxious noises when you paired it with food.

But when you paired it with something else, it wouldn't work.

So, people began to see the constraints on the environment, it just wasn't a full explanation.

Then there was a case study of reared apart twins done by Paul Popenoe in, I think, the 1920s.

Yeah.