Nancy says making a lot of noise Maybe just the opposite of what we want to do when we're experiencing nature.

Make noise.

I mean, I guess that's the thing, too, if you're going to be out hiking.

It is kind of sad because you'd like to go out into nature and be quiet and listen to the sounds and all of this.

But it's not a bad thing to make noise and let them know something's coming.

when there aren't many people around.

When they're heading into, like right now, they're headed into their hyperphasia stage, and that just means they're eating pretty much 20 hours a day.

So they can be out any time of the day if no people are around.