I mean, you must have been thrilled when the ranch came out because that must have just been like the best of every world for you.

It was.

I really wish it had come out way earlier because, I mean, I could have seen myself just, you know, just... just having so much fun with a lot of that, more than I've gotten to later on.

But I love it.

I think it's great because it's, I'll tell you what's the best part about it.

When I give lessons to people that are doing ranch, they're smiling all the time.

When I'm judging people in the ranch pen, most of them are smiling most of the time.

But for everybody else, you can sit there sometimes and be like, what more do they want? And I would love to just hear you speak to maybe that Hunter Undersaddle, Western Pleasure, Ranch Rail type class.