So where did faith fit into your life? Was that something in your past growing up? Was it part of your life then or was it something that came much later?

But it was part of my life growing up.

And the way my mum, she went to church every single Sunday.

She taught Sunday school at church.

She was always taking me to church, taking me to Sunday school.

Didn't always like to go.

She used to have a fight with me and chase me about, trying to get me to go to church.

How do they start to take this, sort of take it apart in a lovely way, I guess, in order to piece it back together in something that people can really easily digest?