Was it 2002?

Yeah, it was right after that.

And really my journey into the Loud and Milk Center, and I'll share a little bit more about what we do and who we are, is I used to work for this huge multinational company.

And my boss one day said, come to this meeting.

And I go to this meeting and there were these three women at the front of the room and they had like cookies and it wasn't like a normal meeting.

It was like a fun meeting.

And they start sharing about helping people and this organization that works with other people.

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