So

part of my background the way I grew up, I studied this academician full time and my focus back then was creating really deep technical experts within different fields.

Going to the corporate board, I had to relearn what I knew about what I thought about technology business and working for a global company, understanding the nuance of different cultures, different places, being able to communicate differently.

and eventually to investment area.

So looking at what market demands, it's a different type of workforce.

In fact, I think a couple of years ago, Forbes magazine did an internal survey.

They have a technology council.

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