A- and putting, putting aside the, the BlackRock issue, was it a, an outrageous success from day one? Were you, were you received warmly, given your track record and a lot of people you knew?

Yeah, look, BGI had a wonderful reputation, uh, globally.

Um, so I think the fact that we worked there, um, yeah, and even to this day, a core group of us have worked together for, for 20, nearly 30 years.

So, um, nothing's handed to you on a silver platter, so we had to work our backsides off.

You know, we had to prove ourselves.

But we had a reputation and a track record that said, you know, if... you know, we've done this, we've got a, we've got a good team, um, and we can do it again.

Um, so yeah, we had some really strong support, you know, from consultants, which, you know, clearly Australia's a market which, uh, consultants play a big role as the gatekeepers to a lot of the big funds.

Is, is that how I should think about it?