Yeah.

Th- these are three of the most popular governors in the country over the last decade, all of them Republicans serving in very, very blue states.

And what do all three of those governors have in common? They reject to some degree or to a great degree Donald Trump.

And so I think Democratic voters, uh, in those blue states, Massachusetts and Vermont and Maryland, they looked at someone who they felt like was a prom- problem solver, probably a fiscal, uh, conservative to some degree, but, um, more, uh, uh, more liberal on, on social issues, but also just sort of rejected Trump and said, "That's not the kind of politician I am.

That's not the kind of government I run." And th- all three of these, these guys got reelected, were, as I said, incredibly popular.

Why Republicans in New York don't do the same thing, I think there's a, I think there's a very good chance that we wouldn't be talking about Kathy Hochul running for reelection right now if Lee Zeldin four years ago had run that strategy and said, "I, I don't agree with Donald Trump, and I don't think Donald Trump is right for New York." But he didn't, and he lost.

And, and Bruce Blakeman, again, the formula is very clear, right? Find me a Republican who won statewide office in a blue state who is a supporter of Donald Trump.

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