Tell us the good news.

It is such good news.

So the drug, I'm going to give you the brand name.

I usually don't speak in brand names.

The mouthful of the generic is Derek Sanrasib, but it's Rasank is the brand name.

This drug was approved for basically salvage therapy for pancreatic cancer at the end of August.

But there was an update on Monday that I think is worth mentioning.

What are we learning about pathways and how to approach them for other forms?

What does the report actually tell us?

Sure.

And, you know, Kevin, I think there's a lot to unpack here.

So let me take it one step at a time.

So the report came out in August.

And as you said, HHS took a look at this, not just from the medical standpoint, but they were really looking at the billing implications.

And like many things in life, no margin, no mission.

all the bullying begins too rhetorically exactly you're not buying into my gender you must be sexist like that's the chain of thought

were cheap.

Exactly.

And so why wouldn't you do that? I do look at some of the vaccines, not just the COVID vaccine, but I look at hepatitis B.

And, you know, I do think that there is a market for vaccines, you know, that why wouldn't you? Like, if I were in a pharma company and I couldn't be sued, why wouldn't I come up with a vaccine for everything? Yeah.

It is the ultimate hammer to the nail of every problem in life becomes solvable with a vaccine.

And it has not served us well.

But I do think there were so many stakeholders who found their way to sort of get their little piece of it, but kids were hurt in ways different.

So how responsible has he been for this loss of trust for the kind of dishonesty, I guess, that we've seen in public health and the fact that so many people now do not trust what the health authorities are telling them?

What do we know? Well, first of all, what is Legionnaire's disease? What do we know about what it actually does?

Well, Kevin, thanks so much for having me on.

So Legionnaire's disease actually comes from an outbreak 50 years ago in 1976 in Philadelphia.

There was a convention of Legionnaires and a lot of them got really sick.

Unfortunately, 29 of them died.

For several months, we did not know what was going on with this disease.

And later on, the disease was identified.

How deadly is Legionnaires?