Monica, can you tell us a bit about your own journey to having a liver transplant?

So I was actually born with Hepatitis B, unknowingly, unwittingly passed on to me by my mother.

This did not cause any real issues until I was in my early 60s.

From the local gastroenterologist, I found myself being referred to King's College Hospital.

Tiny, tiny tumor was found on my liver.

The tumor was tiny, but unfortunately it sat right next to the portal vein, so a procedure called a portal vein embolization was attempted.

Unfortunately, this failed, and now my only option was a transplant.

And coming back to you, Monica, could you help us understand what it currently means for a patient and their family when a donated organ turns out not to be viable, and how this technology might change that experience?

Can you just tell us about your aunt, first of all?

So, yes, as I recall, I was around maybe 10 when she was every day in our house.

She was my godmother.

So she was very close to my mom, actually.

And I remember her on a communion day as well.

It was a big part.

And I still have a little ring from her.

When did you, I suppose, learn what your aunt was going through?

Is there a reason that it stopped or was it like that you were getting into the momming

chapter? Yeah.

I mean, just like what you were just talking about, like not being able to do your job when you're building something the same way you do when you have kids.

I think when I was building it and running my business, I imagined that I would do it with kids.

So in my head, I was like, I'll have a carrier and the baby will just be running around with me and doing all this stuff.

I'll be traveling and I'll be doing all this.

And then it's like when you're in the reality of parenting, you're like I did a dinner on the farm when Harvest was a baby and I had her in the carrier.

I wonder about, was there a grieving process of letting go? And how does that feel?