better productivity, better outcomes for patients?

For sure.

I mean, there are many, many layers to this.

I think when we first met a few weeks ago now, There are so many different layers that are meaningful to me.

If we could touch on perhaps one simple thing, which is the mental health characteristics, particularly in the dental health, in dentistry, there is unfortunately a well-worn kind of, what would we call it, trope where people say that dentists are one of the highest suicide rates professionally.

Unfortunately, that has actually... perhaps was once anecdotal, has actually been borne out now in terms of post-COVID.

There was some research done through Melbourne University in 2021.

You know, this allowing for... trying some other things and coming back to what you really want to do, what you really think now that you're suited to at age 25, 30, 35 is, you know, I think that's really worthwhile and valid for some.