Did you think that was on the horizon? Was that what you were gunning towards or is that how it ended up?

No, no.

I was always wanting to play for England.

Playing for England was the ultimate.

And I come from a background where we have many cricketers in our family.

So my cousin played for England.

My brother played for England 18.

How's the culture shift?

Okay, well, what's the plan this year? Are you in the auction? Are you in the long list?

No, I didn't make it.

So I did put my name in and the auction went.

So you have to be nominated by the teams.

So while I'm talking to teams about playing and how they see me fit in the side.

they all assumed that I would be on this list and didn't nominate my name.

So then I missed out on the whole thing.

So our job as players is to register, for example,

[laughs]

Yeah.

There's some really good co- And they're all different.

So like, um, a lot of my la- the later part of my career, everything was about man- managing and more of a manager type.

There was no one really coaching technique or, um, things like that.

For me, Steve Rhodes at Worcester was really good because he really pushed me.

We just trained constantly and just more technique and getting things right, um, because they're, they're the basics that you really need to have.

Firstly, would you have done that? And do you think Will Jacks is a good cricketer for that role?