Could you believe

it? In the rain.

I know.

And that's what made it even more poetic, wasn't it? You see the rain tumbling down and then the Brisbane bullet just getting down there and drops a 9.85.

I mean, PJ's time stood for 23 years when he ran that back in Japan, that 9.93.

It was a unicorn.

It was something that you would marvel at as an Oceania sprinter.

What do we expect in the mile?

not 1,500 metres?

So they've gone back.

This is the first time since 66, since it was in Jamaica, that we've seen the mile, so 60 years later.

And I'm not sure the exact reason why they've gone back to it, but they wanted to emulate – The mile that was run in 54, the magic mile between Bannister and Landy.

So that was the first time that two men had ever run under the four-minute mile.

I think they thought it was a really good opportunity to bring it back in the fold.

And, I mean, we're going to have heaps of guys run under the four-minute mile this time.

he's come out of nowhere.

What, what are you doing to, to get your knowledge at its peak for when you're ready to go on these big events?

Yeah, great question.

Uh, Bruce is the, the GOAT.

Um, there's no doubt about that.

Like the way that he goes about things is, I can't even fathom at times and, you know, I've been really lucky to, to spend more time with him over the last few years and he's just the nicest, most ... engaging guy you could ever meet.

But to be honest with you, I was doing hardly any research before I started working alongside Bruce and Tamsin, um, and, and Dave as well when we all worked together but, and Richo for that matter.

Um, but that was something I've actually really had to work hard on over the last probably year and a half.

Feel like we're there, using our language.

Mitch Dyer told us about Gaut Gaut's run in Ostrava.

Yeah, look, it's an intriguing distance.

150 meters, you rarely see it.

In fact, you rarely see it on the bend.

Usually they'll do this race in Europe, and it's just on a pure straight 150 meters.

But this time we're on the bend and yeah, look, he's a 200-meter runner.

He runs 100, so 150 was always gonna be interesting.

Like a good neighbor, State Farm is there.

What, what does it do to the whole circuit to have Noah Lyles run a world record?

Yeah, I th- look, I think it's, um, [laughs] it, it's pretty standard as the years go on, Noah Lyles doing something amazing.

I mean, over the 150, I think people will go, "Okay, we don't see that distance a great deal." So I think what they would've been looking for is the form of Noah Lyles.

How well is he finishing these races? What does it actually look like? Because the time given it hasn't been raced a great deal, it probably won't raise too many alarm bells for people.

It's the form.

It's the look, and he looked damn good.

So I think a lot of sprinters now will be perking up.

[laughs]

What, what does it do to the whole circuit to have Noah Lyles run a world record?

Yeah, I th- look, I think it's, um, [laughs] i- it's pretty standard as the years go on, Noah Lyles doing something amazing.

I mean, over the 150, I think people will go, "Okay, we don't see that distance a great deal," so I think what they would've been looking for is the form of Noah Lyles.

How well is he finishing these races? What does it actually look like? Because the time given it hasn't been raced a great deal, it probably won't raise too many alarm bells for people.

It's the form, it's the look, and he looked damn good.

So I think a lot of sprinters now will be perking up.

They'll go, "Okay, we're getting towards the business end." He'll do a few more races here in Europe.

[laughs]

It was essentially, Gap, don't be in a rush to grow up.

Yeah, it was a really interesting one.

I actually think it's actually a really positive conversation because last year there were so many pundits that sort of got on Gout's back saying, why isn't he racing the seniors? Why isn't he racing the seniors? And then you have the Olympic champion come out and say, I think he should be doing pretty well exactly what he has been doing.

I think his team's done an amazing job to keep him in those junior ranks.

And of course, he's opted to run the World Juniors this year instead of the Commonwealth Games.

But for Lezile, he said that that's exactly what he did.

He stayed in his junior ranks for as long as he could.

12.58.2 he ran.

How does that sit with you? Do you think things like this can be a bit of a storm in a teacup, or is it an important conversation to have?

I think it's certainly important.

I mean, David Pocock is probably the man to speak on this more than anybody in Parliament, given that he's a Wallabies [laughs] captain.

There would be no more athletic man in Canberra than [laughs] David Pocock, and you're telling me he can't even go to his own athletic club.

That is absolutely outrageous.

And I mean, God forbid somebody have a little bit of a moral compass and question where some of these funds come from.

Now, I mean, gambling is a huge part of Australian culture.

Like, do you think this story struck a chord this week probably because of the concern a lot of people have right now in this moment about how much gambling is impacting people?