Tell us about that.

I mean, I sprained my ankle in this mountain.

I was like bombing.

My ego was very bruised in this trail race because I was like, you know, I'm a marathoner.

I'm going to show up on the trails and clean up.

And it starts off running six miles up this mountain.

And I like fell apart.

Talk about those three pieces.

One curiosity I have for sure, just with like your childhood and what you're up to now, what really was some of like the catalyst that started you down the path of actually using drugs? Like to go from a kind of like a running background, how did you start kind of down the drug path? What pushed you that direction?

Um, I know exactly.

And it was wanting to fit in.

It was wanting community.

I growing up, I had a couple of best friends, and one of them had an older brother.

And I thought he was the coolest thing I'd ever seen.

Like, I just thought this guy is so freaking cool.

And that's, that's what running does such a great job of.

Why did, why do you think that was? What, what, what do you think made this block special? What created the magic?

Um, I think there's, I've gone over this a hundred times trying to figure it out because I want to do it again.

Uh, I don't think I'll ever have a build like that again.

I don't think I'll ever have a race like that again.

Um, but I think there's a few factors.

I think the biggest one was I was motivated.

Am I always motivated? No, hardly ever.

It was helpful.