wear a

mask.

Yeah, I just hate, I just, I find, I don't know.

I think it just ends up giving me a migraine because I get so stressed out about it.

I feel 10 times worse.

I think I'm better off not doing it.

Yeah, so in March 17, she got cramps.

So I don't know if you want to talk a little bit about that and how running has been a bit of an outlet for you with that.

And that's... that your body can keep doing these things and actually it can make our bodies in better condition and it can strengthen our knees and all of those kind of things as well so it's really kind of getting over those misconceptions and and doing that exercise and I just wanted to talk a little bit about your mum because it seems like she's such a big inspiration for you and it's so great that or beautiful I guess you're getting to have these kind of shared experiences and you mentioned obviously that your mum was diagnosed with um blood cancer what was that like kind of you know finding out that about your your mum's diagnosis because it you know I lost my mum to breast cancer when I was a child so it's obviously a very different experience I imagine when you are going through that with your parent as an adult

Yeah, it was really hard.

I mean, it was three years ago when I found out that my mum had blood cancer.

It was five months of back and forth of trying to get her diagnosed.

And I had to then give up work.

Obviously, I was working at the BBC at the time.

I had to really...

fun and joy that we could be having so how do you say you know i'm sure you meet people all the time that say oh i could never do that or you know running is just not for me how do you kind of speak to those people and what do you say to them do