That's the case,

yeah.

And I remember early on in my career I did the show Downton Abbey in the UK and I remember giving Dame Maggie Smith a note and she said to me, do you know you're the first person in years that has actually given me A usable note.

And I sort of thought she was humoring me.

But anyway, we became very good friends.

And I would go to her trailer every morning to talk her through the day so that she could hit the ground running on set.

And she said to me, you would be shocked at how many people are either intimidated by me or they think, oh, she's in her 80s.

So how are you finding that?

Yeah.

I mean, I, I could talk about the, the visual language of that.

So I think the way, uh, The Chicken Box sequence was written felt almost like individual scenes, but I, I, I love it when things feel organic and we're moving within space and time, and that there are handoffs as opposed to hard cuts from one to the other.

So after Tatum has an argument with Kyle, she goes to the bar.

That hands us off to Duran and her.

Then when she comes back, they have a further argument, and she go- he storms off, she goes out for a cigarette, and as she's walking out, she looks over towards Brooke talking with Sunny, and, and now the camera can settle there.

So it was very much a kind of piece of choreography that hopefully f- doesn't feel like choreography-

Mm.

Wow

... and Japan.

And at a certain point, I was commissioned to go to Bosnia to photograph child landmine victims of the war whi- while it was still going on.

And my, my assignment was twofold.

It was to photograph child, uh, these, these children that, uh, had had many of their limbs blown off, and-Some of the photographs are being sent directly to surgeons in Europe to ascertain who to airlift out first.

And the other, uh, c- you know, assignment was to take medium format portraiture of these children that formed what became a, a, a, a, a large photographic, um, exhibition which traveled the world to raise awareness and funds for this charity.

So anyway, long story short, uh, I went to Bosnia, and it was h- the height of the, I call it the sniper season.

Okay.