And so, uh, what was the sort of sequence of events then from when you went to feeling, "Oh my God, there's not enough hours in the day to do all the things that I need to do" to being in this place that you are now?

I was a, a single parent.

Um, a husband kind of left and we never saw him again.

Disappeared.

Uh, so I was bringing up two children by myself.

Um, I had a job where, um, at the time I was, um- ... uh, writing jokes for greetings cards.

You know, it wasn't a guaranteed income, so I was working really hard.

... intrude into your mess.