Why aren't we providing mental health services that are as diverse as the men they're targeting?

So I'm an associate professor in the School of Science at the University of Newcastle, and I lead a research group called the Good Talk Lab, which is researchers and psychologists coming together to try and find new ways of engaging men with mental health.

My first job out of uni was working on a program called Healthy Dads, Healthy Kids, and I And I loved going out into, you know, regional and underserved communities and running programs for dads and kids.

And that was really about physical health and lifestyle behaviors.

I also worked on a men's weight loss program called Shed It, where a lot of work had been done about how to help people lose weight.

But when you looked at who was participating, it was all women mostly.

And so we did this study where we kind of just advertised and said, come along, men.

The turning point came one day in the middle of the Shed It program.