Who are some of your favorite Ute players? I mean, don't necessarily have to be Carla artists.

Oh, I always, I always loved James Hill.

I mean, I really, since I first saw him play, you know, I just thought he was brilliant in the way he, interpreted things and, and, you know, just the different styles he would do and just his musical taste.

And of course, you know, I saw Jake Shimabukuro when nobody knew who he was at, at the NAMM show, he came on, it was a guitar night and he came out with a ukulele.

It just, I mean, he got a standing ovation.

People didn't, they didn't know who he was and he just shocked people.

literally shocked him.

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