[laughs] So what was some of the hardest issues?

You know, um, there were, there were many, obviously, right? When you, when you're taking two large co-ops and, and trying to work through the, the solutions, um, you know, you had two management teams.

You had two boards of directors.

You had duplication in a lot of areas, right, of, that we had to sort out.

The one thing we always kept in mind was the goal, and, uh, the goal was to create a, a cooperative that, uh, that could deliver exceptional value to its membership long term, and not just for quarters or years.

We're talking for decades and generations, right? So, you know, obviously we had two-- we had 27 board members, 14 from one organization, 13 from another.

We had to have a way to, to get that size down, uh, to a more reasonable, uh, governance body.

So why have you placed so much emphasis on education?