Carolina scored back-to-back touchdowns in the final four minutes to win it in Seattle.

And I think they went the length of the field multiple times, too, which was very hard to do against that Seahawks defense.

Now, the touchdown to Olsen is because of a busted coverage, but I don't think Sherm got the call.

Somebody didn't get the call on that side of the field.

But I think it would have been hard to beat that Panthers team today.

I think they would have beat the Broncos, though, if they did beat the Panthers, for what that's worth.

But I think they would have had a psychological advantage over Peyton Manning, too.

I'm

But do you think that disappointment was a factor in the Ryan Grubb decision? Like, was there a feeling of something needs to change? Or was it just a kind of general, we could have done more sentiment?

I kind of view the Grubb decision just purely as a Mike McDonald thing.

Like, you know... yeah, this ain't it.

Like what you want to do, Ryan, and what I want to do.

We're just, we are clearly not on the same page.

And it, you could feel it, you know, during late in the season where Mike McDonald was like, yeah, we probably should run it more.

And I think one day he got asked about like play action.

I think