What was that first political job?

So that's interesting.

I'm not going to do any name dropping to spare people from doing anything, but a very good friend of mine who I'd known for years, who was very involved in politics, was involved with politics for years.

And so we were friends and we would hang out and we had a mutual friend.

who liked to have fires at his house on Friday and Saturday nights.

And we would go there and we would play poker and drink beer.

And after poker, we'd go out, we'd sit around the fire.

and