However well I'm playing those games or winning those games or losing those games has

to affect the weather on the inside of me.

So the internal game is the main game.

I believe in God.

So the macro game I'm playing, the primordial game I guess I play is... is loving God with my heart, my soul, my mind.

My purpose is to be a blessing, love people, have a good time sharing the gifts God has given me.

And then all the other goals are just sort of fun underneath that.

Mike, anything that you would close on?

Mm.

And there's been hardship internally, but you know what? Instead of trying to make myself more famous, more money, so I can get more stuff and make my little box inside LA more comfortable, I'm gonna make it as uncomfortable as possible.

I'm gonna do something I don't know if I can do, and it's gonna be physically hard.

It's actually gonna be dangerous, and it's gonna be so divorced from what I'm supposed to do that it might actually risk the work that I put in the last 10 years of my life to become a pop star.

And this is when my agents and managers told me, they said, "Y- you're gonna ruin your whole career by doing this." Okay, let's go.

And for me, that was my real bar mitzvah.

That was my real starting to become an adult.

Yeah.

Great to have you.

Hey, Ed.

Good to meet you, and thanks for having me on.

And, you know, um, it's humbling to hear that introduction.

But, you know, all those things that I've done, they've been amazing, and I'm mostly proud of them.

Although I'm also keenly aware that some non-trivial part of the inspiration to do them was I was addicted to getting other people to like me, and they're not my biggest accomplishment.

The-- Even all those added up together on the external, my biggest accomplishment is I went from somebody whose emotional home base, their set point, was depressed, was negative, to somebody whose emotional set point now is joy, faith, and love.

Mm.

Yeah.

And he wasn't there for that reason at all.

So th- there's more, and I remember this question that my friend taught me.

If you're ever trapped in the small talk, and you wanna go deeper, ask this question.

I said, "If I pray for you, what should I pray for?" He takes a second, and his eyes go down to the ground.

And he said, "Mike, five years ago, my father died from drinking.

And three years ago, my only sibling, my big brother, who was like my rock, he died from drinking.

Take us out.

[laughs] [applauds]

Thank you.

And so I made the decision, but still, these negative thoughts kept coming up in my head.

head.Thoughts like, what if I really hurt myself permanently from doing this walk? What if I fail? What if I don't make it across and, like, I fail in front of everyone? [gentle music] But on April 15th, 2019, I stood off the coast of New Jersey and I took a step, and when I took that step, all the fears and doubts about what might happen if I chose to do this, they disappeared because I was doing it, and that's when I learned the second lesson.

Step one is take one step.

I walked across New Jersey and Pennsylvania.

I walked across Ohio, where I developed blistering foot pain.

[cheers] [claps]