Is everybody going to submit the curriculum to McCures? I mean, what about, I can't imagine some of these schools that we've talked about in the past are going to submit anything.

Well, so now we're kind of getting to the crux to what part of my issue was with the MTO making this announcement.

So what the MTO has announced is there's going to be a standardized curriculum.

So the MTO, along with stakeholders, is going to develop a standardized curriculum.

Then that curriculum is just going to be supplied to all the schools, and this is what you teach.

Now, to get back to the lack of communication and working together on this file, McCure's asked all the schools back in 2025 to resubmit all their curriculums.

Sorry, in December of 2024, McCure sent out a bulletin to all approved schools telling them they had to resubmit their curriculum.

Has anybody talked about retesting these people after six months or some period of time to see if they've actually improved or been trained further than what they learned in driving school?

But what about more hours on the road?

Yeah, so from what we understand, and the announcement yesterday was pretty light on details, we have been involved, our organization and many others.

We've had seven meetings with the province since January of 2025 addressing changes to oversight and compliance and stiffening of standards.

Not at liberty to discuss everything we've talked about because they may have signed an NDA, but what I can say from reading yesterday's announcement is it sounds like the hours we're talking about increasing are mainly virtual and online or classroom.

And what our organization has been pushing for is an increase in the practical hours.

So an increase in the hours required on the road.

Right now the standard only requires 32 hours of on-the-road training.

And I'm just wondering, from the perspective of a good truck driving school, what do they think about all this?

So why don't we kind of start with what you guys have been up to for the last little bit with regards to the industry as a whole.

Yeah, well, I'd say the biggest thing that we're still working on, and it's hard to call it new, but it's new-ish, I guess.

At least we haven't been talking about it forever.

But the biggest thing we're working on, I'd still say, National Safety Code 71415 with the CCMTA and the various jurisdictions.

There's been a bit more pressure put on the jurisdictions and CCMTA to do something about this.

I'd say more because of a push for harmonization of trucking regulations that has happened in the face of what's going on to the south of us, where we need to look a bit more internal and fix our own house a little bit and make us a little more competitive.

So National Safety Code 7 is the driver and carrier profile, 14 is the carrier safety rating, and 15 is the facility audit.

definitely so it's funny between you know that and the the red seal um you know for for drivers since we've been doing this podcast with you i mean that's always kind of been on your your radar and it's been nice to see although it's slow as we kind of expect with with government regulations but it's been a steady kind of progression to you know towards the goal you guys are have been advocating for you know for both both these two fields