Um, what made you decide that you wanted to do work in international development and democratization?

Well, that's an interesting question.

You know, development part is, is a broader topic.

Um, I became interested in the Foreign Service in the '90s.

I went to college, uh, at Georgetown University, where they have the School of Foreign Service, from which the Foreign Service gets its name.

Uh, the school predates the Foreign Service itself.

Um, and so, um, but I didn't study at the School of Foreign Service.

Okay.