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three months three three months two days 40 42 hours 72 seconds Uh, uh, uh, you know, 120 minutes.

We're not going to go there.

We're not going to go there.

Um, but you know, you know, we, we work on it every day.

I don't want to sound corny, but like we work at it every day.

I mean, I see you every day, whether it's like an hour, 20 minutes, whatever it is.

You were like, did you text me? Did you send me this? Yeah, I don't like being surprised.

That is something that can happen with a 15-year-old suspect who's accused of very serious offenses, right?

That's absolutely correct.

It's called discretionary decline.

And the discretion lies with the juvenile court judge who will preside over that motion, essentially.

It's a prosecutor asking the court to do something, which is to decline jurisdiction.

And that can be sought for people who are under the age of 16 who are being accused of, again, a serious violent offense.

That's a term of art.

Judge, in cases like this, if prosecutors do ask to move things to adult court, what kind of difference could that make for a young person, say a 15-year-old who has tried for a serious offense like manslaughter or murder? How much does it matter for how long they might stay in detention, how long it might be before they might get parole? I mean, ultimately, what are the stakes for the judge's decision on whether to keep them in juvenile court or bump the case to adult court?

Which is exciting.

Something you're obviously proud of.

It's one of those trivia things that's quite cool.

Fast forward 10 years or so, you sort of go around chasing contracts.

So always that second tier, I suppose, level of rugby.

Ended up then moving back to the UK.

Okay.

It's a