How is that all viewed, that it feels like the Browns are getting the better end of this stuff, but you guys are having success anyway?

Yeah, I mean, look, winning is the most important thing, right? And I don't know how you can judge the Travis Hunter trade when he didn't play half the season last year.

Quinshawn Judkins, part of that deal, averaged 3.6 yards to carry.

Jags got their own starting running back, Basil Tootin, in that deal.

You know, we'll see.

I mean, Casey Concepcion might light the world on fire.

I don't know.

interested in how he is perceived in in jacksonville i know 13 wins helps but just because like bleep them picks kind of makes sense in like a ritzy la town i've always kind of viewed jacksonville as kind of a laid back even keel kind of like play the long game kind of town am i am i off on this

Who's the second guy you want to bring up today?

I got a bunch of guys on my list here, as you know.

But the one I've selected here is New York Giants tight end Isaiah Likely.

He follows John Harbaugh to the Giants.

Now, we presume Malik Nabors, the aforementioned, is going to be their number one wide receiver.

And he probably will be.

But he is not 100% healthy.

transitioning from that now who is the last guy on your list you want to talk about today

[laughs]

I'll say this.

Look, he started for Harbaugh in Baltimore for two years, followed him to New York, and got dumped for a late round pick before the season started.

Right.

It feels like it, you know, which could be good, you know? But Pregnon, up until that one pre-season game, hadn't really stood out.

But he, I mean, he's clearly did in that game.

Is that how you see things?

Yeah.

Look, I'm, I'm humble on this because you never, you know, ev- events can change.

Uh, if I...

Today, if you were to ask me, um, and I'm not assigning blame on this to anyone, but do I think the United States position is probably in the Middle East worse than it wa- it today than it was before the war started.

And it's not just because of oil flows or, or, uh, you know, Iran's influence, uh, just on the Strait.

I mean, you have, you've had US bases targeted.

And from someone who served in the intel community, I am curious, is there an element of all of this, of this conflict, of negotiations, of Hormuz, anything in between, that you're looking at a different way than perhaps everyone else, the general public? Do you think we should be focused on something that maybe there's not that much attention on? What do you make of all of that?

Do you think we've seen now this emergence of the prospect we always thought we were going to see in Trevor Lawrence now in this Liam Cohen offense? Or was this just a really good finish where everything broke right for him at the end of the season in 2025?

Well, you can't know, right, until it plays out.

But I do believe that the key is Liam Cohen in this whole thing.

You know, we talked about him a lot this morning on my show locally in Jacksonville.

The guy is an excellent play caller.

He's much more of a leader of men than we anticipated coming in.

Like, he really has his team believing.

Where are you at with Travis Hunter? And where are the Jaguars at from what you're hearing so far in training camp?

I'm saying, oh, it's a brother or sister coming to see.

Yeah, well, I mean, I guess that's basically what happened.

Like, do you have any...

Did you meet her? Just on the phone.

Okay.

I mean, my cousin, Tara, does...

She's, like, into all the Ancestry.com stuff.

and he was like, ask me anything, and you asked him

[laughs]

But, uh, Brenton Strange is, uh, right now tight end 19 in the typical draft.

And you gotta think that, you know, it'll be different in Jacksonville, but many leagues where you have to start a tight end, you're only drafting one, right? Especially if you go early with a Brock Bowers or a Trey McBride or a Colston Loveland this year.

Um, so Brenton Strange is gonna go undrafted in a lot of one tight end, 12-team fantasy leagues.

And but you look at the guys in that same range, a Ronde Gadsden Jr., Hunter Henry, uh, right ahead of Jawuan Johnson and Kenyan Sadiq.

I, I think that's fine if you prefer Brenton out of that group right there, but he's gonna fall victim to some of the same stuff that we're talking about with the wide receiver corps.

There's one football to go around.

Do you expect him to be consistently fantasy relevant this year?

Can you diagnose what went wrong for Brian Thomas Jr. last season?

I, I can't get in his head, uh, but, you know, he had a, an off-season that was plagued with a lot of drops, and that was kind of the way it went his rookie year.

And then they had a joint practice with Tampa where he really showed up big, and a lot of the Bucs players afterwards were like, "Wow, uh, didn't see that coming." And from that point forward, he kind of progressed.

And he had the drops, you know, for whatever reason.

I can't tell you why, but, uh, he wasn't catching the football very well.

Didn't seem to be on the same page with Trevor Lawrence all the time.

Uh, they trade for Jakobi Meyers mid-season after Hunter gets hurt, and Meyers shows up, and all of a sudden, uh, you know, catching the ball became more contagious.

What's the defense gonna be like this year when they add Travis Hunter predominantly, we think, uh, to the, uh, to the secondary?

I'm

cleared for surgery this weekend.

I'm going to have my pinky taken off, shipped up to New York, and whatever I can do to help the cause, you know?

What you guys got coming up today, Michael?

We got Tom McManus coming in.

A little Friday free-for-all, kind of wrap up some thoughts.

Tommy was out there at OTA practice earlier in the week.

We're going to look at a couple of betting lines for the Jags that I think are very attainable.

Yeah.

You know? But I, I'm a little bit concerned about it, but here's the thing.

Look, he's locked in in Jacksonville for the foreseeable future, and I think they'd love to bring Jakobi Meyers back.

And if they do that, they've got a guy who can handle the stuff that Brian Thomas Jr frankly has not been good at this year, that intermediate stuff over the middle, in between the hashes, let him play as more of an outside the hash, uh, wide receiver and take more deep shots to him.

Uh, he's had an issue with drops this year, and he's had...

At times it looked like he's shying a- away from contact.

Now, not every receiver loves getting blasted when they go over the middle, but every once in a while you gotta do it.

Right.