Here is Mike Chapman to share this turning point story in Abraham Lincoln's life.

Aside from my passion for wrestling, I have long been intrigued by the history of US presidents.

That really began to blossom when I was executive editor of the daily newspaper in Dixon, Illinois, which is the hometown of Ronald Reagan.

I was the editor there from 1989 to 1998.

During that 10-year period, I discovered that Abe Lincoln had actually served in the very same location that is Dixon today.

Lincoln served there during the Black Hawk War of 1832, and that fact really inspired me to learn more about Lincoln as a young man, which in turn led me to the little village of New Salem, Illinois.

It is located about 200 miles south of Dixon and about 20 miles northwest of Springfield, Illinois, and what a wonderful place that is for any history buff.

Let's continue with Mike Chapman.

Yeah, I mean, how did you get involved with plants, Mike? With plants? Yeah, in general.

Well, I did landscaping for 15 years and then Jim needed help here and I wasn't exactly happy where I was at landscaping.

So I got the job here at Nature's Way and i right away i just like i said earlier it just opened my eyes to a whole new world and and it's just the the history of the trees and just i i just i don't even know how to explain it it's and it's addicting like you go hiking and That's all I can look at is the trees now.

And before, I would have just walked right past all this stuff, you know? Yeah, for sure.

Yeah, it just really opened my mind to a whole

It's a different kind of teaching, right? Yeah,

it's a completely different kind of teaching, but it's fun.

It's like you're directing an orchestra sometimes.