How do you get the job that you now have? What was the process like for you? What stepping stones brought you to where you are?

So I joined the organization from Portland.

I was a player on the Phantom IL, just kind of basically a bullpen catcher.

So the team decided they needed an extra bullpen catcher in 2015.

And my name came up through some coaches and different people that I played with and was able to join the big league staff at that point with John Farrell and Tori Lovello and those people in 15 and kind of did that role from 15 to 20.

Spring training 2.0, the COVID year when we did spring training at Fenway and we did all that.

And that was the year that the investigation and all this stuff was kind of going on.

Like, you're safe, but this is just what's happening.