I know it's probably hard to sort of summarize super concisely, but yeah, it would be lovely to hear about your journey and how you encountered them.

Thank you very much for having me, first of all.

And I'm very, very pleased to be able to share a little bit of my journey with Oris Omer with you.

I mean, let's begin with the beginning of meeting Vicky Wall, which is where my Aurasoma journey began.

It was at a similar festival to yourself, you know.

It was actually called Earth Spirit and it was in Malvern in Worcestershire.

I was showing some cards and prints of my paintings at the time with a colleague and also my wife who does creative embroidery.

So...