Online, I think especially in the firm world, and maybe people won't like if I say this, but very often when there is the firm community of people who are very stringent and adhere to all rules, all halakha, et cetera, right? They are always very taken aback if anyone who doesn't look like them or act like them says, oh, I'm more connected now than I was before, even though it might not appear

to them that that could be the case.

So a lot of times I think it's their projections of what they're comfortable with in their own life that they judge other people.

And obviously we all know we learned in preschool about Lashon Hara and judging other people and harming people and our speech and all of these things we learn at such an early age, but it's not internalized.

It's just autopilot.

And I find that you're right in the from world, there's so much judgment that goes on about one another, but really you can go to school three times a day and you can wear a shade doll and cover your elbows and your knees and some people, I'm not gonna say all, but some people are really, really horrible inside.

And they just teach that to their children and their children teach it to their children.

It's also, I wonder how that ties in with the work that you do.

So, just take us, I guess, through your process of leaving the interior design world and going into a new space and you can explain what that space is now and what led you there.

Okay, so leaving the interior design world, I still do a few projects here and there.

I didn't fully leave it.

I took a big step back.

It was something that I felt was right for the time.

I needed to focus more on my kids.

I needed to be focusing more on myself.

Can you talk a little bit about what it was like going from being a married person for 18 years, a long time, to being single for the first time in your life, living alone, I mean with your kids, but alone nonetheless, and also kind of being in the from world where there's so much emphasis on family and Shabbos and all that.

Um, and what like led you there?

Okay.

So leaving the interior design, I still do a few projects here and there.

I didn't fully leave it.

I took a big step back.

Um, It was something that I felt was right for the time.

I needed to focus more on my kids.

And also kind of being in the firm world where there's so much emphasis on family and Shabbos and all that.