When we think about sustainable performance, I think it's such an important one, what are your practical strategies?

Well, September through to Christmas is, like always, this incredibly intense period.

Kids are going back to school, um, businesses moving into the year-end sprint.

Um, you're focused on delivering the year, working out what needs to happen next year, budgets, planning, um, also performance and development conversations, um, all while Thanksgiving and Christmas and everything that comes with family life starts happening all around you.

Um, this year that sprint is particularly real for me because Finality has a lot going on.

Um, we have the prospect of two new payment systems going live before n- year end.

Um, so I think generally you kinda have to accept that there just are periods in life when you simply are gonna be running pretty hard.

And Finality, you know, when you think about your own leadership journey, how does that connect to what you're building at Finality?

So do you believe that there is a convergence, that tokenization will influence the world of AI and finance or the other way around, whether AI is an enabler of acceleration of tokenization and digital assets?

Thank you very much for having me.

Um, and, um, I, I guess I, I tend to think about these two technologies, AI and tokenization, as solving different problems in the financial stack where we stand today.

So AI as primarily enhancing intelligence, improving analysis, forecasting, optimization, and decision-making.

Tokenization, by contrast, modernizing execution, making assets, money, and settlement processes programmable.

Um, so where they start to converge is in the ability to connect better decision-making with more efficient execution.

So for example, an AI system may identify a liquidity need, um, optimize collateral usage, or rebalance positions in real time.

Where do you believe, Michelle, in the future, the trust will predominantly reside in the whole ecosystem of, of wallets, uh, banks, the blockchain operators, the regulators, uh, identity providers? I could go on, right? Where, where do you believe the, the trust will go, and how do, how do consumers in particular understand that?