So I don't know if that's where you want to begin or if there's anything further back where your mess became your message, if there's even a starting point before that.

Totally.

Well, I'll give you a little context of how I ended up at the ashram.

Please.

Yeah, absolutely.

So You know, my mom, I'll start with my mother.

My mother raised us in a household that was filled with love and spirituality and kids everywhere all the time.

What's the birthing point to go from that contraction to that expansion?

Like how that even happened.

Well, I'll tell you, the road hasn't been like linear.

It hasn't been straightforward.

Obviously, as you can see, being an artist, being on a show, you know, kind of figuring out what the next thing is and building out No Girl Left Behind.

No Girl Left Behind was growing at such a pace and it was creating such impact.

And then COVID happened.

the pandemic which was it really shut down everything was live events and it shut down everything that we had worked for at that time we were we had actually built it up to be able to see a million girls the following year and I took two years to build out what that tour was going to become and then you know weeks out we essentially you know everything happened with the pandemic and everything shut down and everyone has their story and their version of what happened when you know when the pandemic happened for me it was heartbreaking it was the it was one of the most um it's one of the things that I've grieved the most in my life like having spent that much time knowing the impact it was going to make and then it was like shut down and no one knew what was going to happen in life remember I cried so much and I felt so much um so much pain and and And so in that moment, I had to figure out like, what does this mean? If I felt so clear of what I was building and now that's gone and I don't really know what the future really looks like here, what does this mean about everything? you know, that became the beginning of well, my husband, he was in, you know, he's a film composer and music producer in the industry as well.

But for the entrepreneurs that participate in the show or the real life entrepreneur, how important is to balance the way they work with other things?

At what point did you realize fame wasn't the final destination for your life?

life?Yeah, so interesting.

I think, like, I, hmm.

I've always felt this, like, very deep calling that, like, my life is so much bigger than myself, and that impact matters.

And impact sounds almost like a generic term, but for me, I always felt like I'm here to do something that actually is going to help people in a really big way.

When I was 11 years old, I started studying to become a minister, and I was the only child in that scenario.

Everyone else is, like, adults who are studying to become ministers.

I'm nervous"? And then what made you overcome that fear and keep pushing through?