out of the house for half a day.

Exactly.

And so I met her there and she kind of, like I think in the course of that class we wrote, and this is like dating myself kind of, we wrote modern family specs back when that was like relevant because it was like two years old.

And so we wrote these modern family specs and I think that kind of through those and like, you know, through the other little assignments, she was like, oh, I think I understand this person's voice and I like could help them.

But it wasn't until kind of after.

She was like, she would not... like show me any preferential treatment in class, which I think was right.

But then after she was like, Hey, you know, I want to be able to be a resource for you, which is incredible.

I'm somebody who went to theater school and then I graduated and was like damn I probably should have taken a writing class like like that's like where I'm at um because I really want to make my own content too so I guess I'm wondering like what were some of those experiences that you had to like learn on the fly and I mean you talked a little bit about it like with the spec scripts and stuff which was really great um so if you had like anything else and then a tiny follow-up was like if people aren't really looking for specs right now, what is it that they are looking for? What's something that we should probably like definitely have?