How long have we got?

[laughs] We've ...

The first answer is because my love of history and my absolute emphatic love of, um, working with women, girls and young women, uh, families and fighting for women's rights, fighting for who we are.

Uh, especially through the '80s and the '90s, I think people forget where we came from.

And, um, part of that learning process was the information that came out about the fact that many of the caves that are now very famous in France, Spain, Portugal, with all the pa- uh, cave paintings and the hand prints and all of that stuff, they are now pretty much conclusively saying, which is what we all said, was that that was women.

That those places were where the women's craft was.

It was the womb of the mother into the cave, into the earth.

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