So Michel, tell us, how is ransomware evolving?

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Yeah, evolving is indeed the keyword, and this is nothing new.

This is basically what we've been putting in the IOCTA year after year, and it goes without saying that as long as they want to protect this cybercriminal business model, they need to keep evolving along with, uh, law enforcement and cybersecurity, for example.

And we've seen in the past that as defenses get better, as companies have, uh, backup solutions, we saw, uh, ransomware actors moving more towards ex- uh, exfiltration of data and then just, um, if the company can get back online, good for you, but we still ask money and not to leak your data.

Similarly, we've seen, uh, that for example, uh, employees are maybe a little bit better, uh, trained for their awareness, um, against, uh, like phishing attempts.

Uh, and now we see that there's more a move towards info stealers, where the data or the credentials are being stolen from, uh, the devices, uh, let's say, against the will, uh, so the user doesn't need to input their credentials.

What is the impact?